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Ive been so busy with the play i havent had
time to do other things that i enjoy. But i think that prayer is for us.
I do not necessarily think that prayer is religious. But its kind of
like wrestling. You know that things in the world entangle you. Maybe
its something that was said about you or its how people see you. And in
this day and age there are so many terms to describe these different
conditions of the mind and the physical. So we get to feeling like there
are tentacles that wrap around us and force us into a mold where we
feel like our expression of being aligned by God of mind , will ,
emotion is not running on all the cylinders as a fine tuned car.
So
prayer is really not for God but its a gift to us from God. Pray is
essential for us to know God and to know God in the intimate way of
being our only helper... or Father. So prayer is our experiencing this
relationship of a Father who comes the aid of His children. What we need
to understand is that prayer is really the only place on this earth
that we will find freedom to be loved like we want to be loved. Because
all of the disconnected experiences we have come from our either having
carnal lust, jealousy, envy, strife, or covetousness. All of these
attributes are formed in us by other people or by our thinking wrong and
this is what we experience as entanglement.
So these evil
powers hold us and cause us to feel entrapped. I do not necessarily
think they just come from wrong thinking but they can be forced upon us
by and evil relationship. We can be threatened to succumb to their power
over us. So we are always fighting not against flesh and blood but
against powers and forces of evil in us and that force us into that
mold. So God has given us these cries of Jesus who in the garden
struggled in prayer and sweat drops of blood because of the evil event
that was to over take Him of which He was intimately acquainted with
understanding the future. In other words Chris was not just praying
because of the event on the cross but He actually was struggling with
the Devil who wanted to kill Him by the struggle. Christ suffered and
intense anguish because the Devil want to kill Him.
So pray is
our getting free from the entanglements of the world. And this is why we
have prayers that are like war. Because although we have been given
victory of the Devil through the work of Christ yet we have been given
the means to experience that victory by approaching the conflict like an
athlete. In other words we learn how to train and beat our bodies into
submission by the art of praying like it depends upon our dieing if we
do not receive new life. Or we do not experience the Holy Spirit who
gives new life. When we have prayed rite we have experienced an intense
battle of life and death ramifications.
I'm
in Awe. Tho I Understand as I grew. that Fell off like olde skin. I
used to get concerned and scared. Then I realized a Body has Mayny Many
Parts. We in The Body Fight for the same Part. Odd I should add. Tom And
I were Close.
When I started to move to were I was to be in The
years to come. I could not Get my Mates attention. Tho I Inderstand. I
liken him to A 21century Great Thinker.
Me I am Not. That is not My
strong suit.-Darn I became able to put Doctrine aside and get my hands
dirty- A Grave crime According to The John Mac Squad. That Happened to
be my ex Church. How ODD.Eh'--Feed The Body then The Spirit, they
say-well do feed the spirit then the body. This slight difference. I
see Trust-Feed Me. I will be likely to trust. Preach Make me do, This
looks like you have other motives.--I do as I wish was Done to me--Thats
It. No Inner trouble this way.-Folks My Rude interlude is that we all
have different gifts. Not all Can Play intelectual Tag With Tom Biggee.
And That is The way it should be. Not all Have the Gift of Making
Impossible Plans Possible for The Lord. Amen All. Give him Glory for our
wonderfully varied gifts. Lets be sure to use them. Your Mate.
Thanks
bro... i know i havent been talkin to you on the other forum or on face
book.. i really dont like facebook... i mean i have a distaste for that
kind of format...but i love ya man... although i havent been much of a
help i still pray for you and want the best... But ive had the
most bizarre year. Ive discussed these Psalms in various formats ... at
key life... on emails and in classes with friends and other people on
the internet so this is a general complaint that i am not talking about
any specific group... But ive actually had people who were
looking at using the Psalms to counsel me. And i know exactly what is
going on .. i see things and understand how people talk about these
things so i kinda figure out what the motive is after discussing these
things. But after i explained the purpose of these different
descriptions of the difference between the righteous man and the wicked
man then there really was a lack of interest in discussing these things
further in my opinion. Because i kind of thought that it was to talk to
me about my sin. But after the first angry confrontation i was taken
a back. I was one person who had two or three people going after me.
So i decided to stop the interaction. But i was approach and there was
apologies and then we began to do the communication again. Then i get
this opposed side as there it is false to say that we can be blessed by
praying in a way where we use the word of God for our advantage. I
think i was being accused of the positive thinking faith movement
teaching. At no time have i ever believed that we say something as if we
were claiming it and it was ours. I was simply talking about the new
desires and how praying according to Gods will we would end up with
blessing. But i was upgraded about this because they opposed me by
saying that people suffer and life is not easy. And this ended in an
angry confrontation.. so i decided to take some time off again. lol While
this was going on there were people who were coming into this
conversation and people leaving it. Well it dwindled down to a few
people . lol. I kind of thought that it did not go the way it was
planned so there were people who were not happy. lol. So i was approach again and we had some communication and encouragement. Then
we had this disagreement about what was true about talking in this way
of the meta physical.. so i got the impression that i was being
upbraided about this being in my own mind. So i was accused of not being
practical and it was just my imagination running wild. lol Then
after a few more conversations there was a disagreement.... and you
wont believe what it was about... it was about not thinking positive
about faith and blessing... oh my gawd... i was like... is this really
happening? I was accused of hating the rich ...there was a lack of love
in cursing etc...of being negative in general....and this ended in an
angry confrontation... of which i decided that it was time to back out.
So this has been a year of the bizarre... Ive been accused of
being a bully of which my general character is to avoid confrontation. I
am a softy really. But its difficult for me because people do not
really respect the fact that i know a lot of scripture but yet i do not
have a degree. So i ask people have they ever meditated on the Psalms
for 3 hours and tell me what that is like. They cant understand because
there experience.. their thinking has not been changed in that degree.
Its very difficult for me to explain what its like. And now memorizing
the book of Revelation ..this book is so heavy it feels like i am
swimming in the meta physical. Sometimes my mind feels like it is so
weighted down that i cant function... sometimes i feel like this present
world is so far away ... i cant get used to this. Im not sure i can
endure being separated in this fashion. Its a new experience. Thanks for
the encouragement cause sometimes i get down about this.
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: OF THE WORK OF THE HOLY GHOST IN OUR SALVATION... Thomas Goodwin
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on: April 17, 2012, 08:34:13 AM
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8. There is in Scripture ascribed to the Holy
Ghost the implantation of all the contrary graces, which are so often
compared to flowers and the gardens of them, and unto trees in orchards
and beds of spices, planted artificially by a florist (which is an
allusion the Holy Ghost delights to use in that book of Canticles); the
fruits and flowers whereof shall never fade (as the flower of grass
doth), but grow up, and flourish to eternal life; which flowers,
&c., because planted in her heart, the spouse there calleth her
garden—' upon my garden'—as also Christ calls it his garden, and both in
that one verse, Cant. iv. 16, which, as appears by ver. 12, was her own
self. 'An enclosed garden is my sister, my spouse,' says Christ of her,
'a spring shut up, a fountain sealed.' And ver. 18 and 14, 'Thy plants
are an orchard of pomegranates, a fountain of gardens, a well of living
waters, and streams from Lebanon ;' which is certainly an enumeration of
particular graces in their distinction and variety, if we knew how
aptly to apply those similitudes in each to what is proper to each. But
however, it serves in general to instruct us, that there is such a
variety of graces in our hearts, as here of trees in the spouse's heart,
* and that the heart of every saint is an orchard to such spiritual
plants growing therein; and in like manner, a garden to a like variety
of flowers, as in ver. 12. And various graces are meant by either. And
the planting and bringing forth these are all ascribed to the Holy
Spirit, as Christ's chief planter. Thus I understand that fore-cited
ver. 12, 'A garden enclosed, a spring shut up,' to intend that she had
two things enclosed in her heart.
(1.) All sorts of graces, planted as in a garden, as the effects.
(2.)
The indwelling of the Spirit, as the spring.and producer of all these
flowers, and accordingly in ver. 15 she is said to be 'a fountain of
gardens, a well of living water, and streams from Lebanon.' Now that
well of living water is apparently the Spirit: John iv. 14, 'But
whosoever drinketh of the water that I shall give him, shall never
thirst; but the water that I shall give him, shall be in him a well of
water springing up into everlasting liie;' which is interpreted to be
the Holy Ghost (John vii. 88, 89), which comes as a spring from Lebanon,
that is, from that high mountain, even from heaven, from the throne of
God and of the Lamb, as Rev. xxi. 1, 'And he shewed me a pure river of
water of life, clear as crystal, proceeding out of the throne of God and
of the Lamb,' which watereth these flowers; which well the church hath
in her belly, as Christ's word is in that of John the Evangelist, chap.
vii. 88. And all these plants in Christ's garden, which is the soul of a
believer, are of the Spirit's bringing forth and setting; for as the
earth, watered with fructifying water, brings forth plants as at the
first creation, so the soul, bedewed with the Spirit, brings forth
'trees of righteousness, of the planting of the Lord, that he might be
glorified,' Isa. lxi. 8 ; which (as appears by comparing ver. 1) is
recorded as the effect of Christ's having this Spirit given him : ' The
Spirit of the Lord is upon me, to preach the gospel,' whereof this is
made the immediate effect, viz., the communicating the same Spirit unto
his members, for this end, to plant in them trees of righteousness. Thus
it is ascribed unto this Spirit, and ver. 11 of the same chapter it is
added,' For as the earth bringeth forth her bud, and as the garden
causeth the things that are sown in it to spring forth, so the Lord God
will cause righteousness and praise to spring forth before all nations.'
In a word, he is styled the Spirit of grace, Heb. z. 29 as the eminent
efficient of all our graces ; and therefore, they that apostatise are
said to do despite unto this Spirit, as he is the efficient of all
graces and gracious workings.
The bible also describes the
flow of water, the glory of God over the earth, and the creation in
plants and trees as compared to the health of a city. So we have in the
bible a patriarchal society. The children are well nurtured plants who
grow to be kings.This is done by the teaching of wisdom. I might say it
is an imaginative way of communicating.. the mind and desire ... or the
imagination and imagination... Kind of like the Man of La
mancha...imagination is the caboose of knowledge .... So a patriarchal
society understands the difference between the public and the private.
Its not necessarily the definition of sin or the exposure of weakness
but Gods kingdom is a way of speaking as glorifying and enjoying God.
Ive
heard people say when are we gonna talk about the practical? When are
we gonna reduce these things so they can be understood? Its kind of like
this.. God must be understood as He is. But all of us are made
differently. So there is a sense in which God affords us the respect so
that we blossom like individual plants. The way of wisdom is self
knowledge. But the foolish way is to reduce everything to put people
into a group or a kind of personality.
What happens is that the
individual identity becomes a public identity rather than a patriarchal
identity. I mean patriarchal in the covenant theo understanding. But the
city goes from a beautiful well fed garden to a ferocious jungle. lol
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Commentary on Genesis - Volume 1 J. Calvin
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on: April 17, 2012, 08:25:09 AM
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16. The greater light I have said, that Moses
does not here subtilely descant, as a philosopher, on the secrets of
nature, as may be seen in these words. First, he assigns a place in the
expanse of heaven to the planets and stars; but astronomers make a
distinction of spheres, and, at the same time, teach that the fixed
stars have their proper place in the firmament. Moses makes two great
luminaries; but astronomers prove, by conclusive reasons that the star
of Saturn, which on account of its great distance, appears the least of all, is greater than the moon.
Here lies the difference; Moses wrote in a popular style things which
without instruction, all ordinary persons, endued with common sense, are
able to understand; but astronomers investigate with great labor
whatever the sagacity of the human mind can comprehend. Nevertheless,
this study is not to be reprobated, nor this science to be condemned,
because some frantic persons are wont boldly to reject whatever is
unknown to them. For astronomy is not only pleasant, but also very
useful to be known: it cannot be denied that this art unfolds the
admirable wisdom of God. Wherefore, as ingenious men are to be honored
who have expended useful labor on this subject, so they who have leisure
and capacity ought not to neglect this kind of exercise. Nor did Moses
truly wish to withdraw us from this pursuit in omitting such things as
are peculiar to the art; but because he was ordained a teacher as well
of the unlearned and rude as of the learned, he could not otherwise
fulfill his office than by descending to this grosser method of
instruction. Had he spoken of things generally unknown, the uneducated
might have pleaded in excuse that such subjects were beyond their
capacity. Lastly since the Spirit of God here opens a common school for
all, it is not surprising that he should chiefly choose those subjects
which would be intelligible to all. If the astronomer inquires
respecting the actual dimensions of the stars, he will find the moon to
be less than Saturn; but this is something abstruse, for to the sight it
appears differently. Moses, therefore, rather adapts his discourse to
common usage. For since the Lord stretches forth, as it were, his hand
to us in causing us to enjoy the brightness of the sun and moon, how
great would be our ingratitude were we to close our eyes against our own
experience? There is therefore no reason why janglers should deride the
unskilfulness of Moses in making the moon the second luminary; for he does not call us up into heaven, he only proposes things which lie open before our eyes.
Let the astronomers possess their more exalted knowledge; but, in the
meantime, they who perceive by the moon the splendor of night, are
convicted by its use of perverse ingratitude unless they acknowledge the
beneficence of God.
To rule73 He does not ascribe such dominion
to the sun and moon as shall, in the least degree, diminish the power of
God; but because the sun, in half the circuit of heaven, governs the
day, and the moon the night, by turns; he therefore assigns to them a
kind of government. Yet let us remember, that it is such a government as
implies that the sun is still a servant, and the moon a handmaid. In
the meantime, we dismiss the reverie of Plato who ascribes reason and
intelligence to the stars. Let us be content with this simple
exposition, that God governs the days and nights by the ministry of the
sun and moon, because he has them as his charioteers to convey light
suited to the season.
This is interesting that God does make
the view of the earth more important than what we understand by going
into space. So in His condescension He is acting on our behalf. Of which
we fail to see the full truth of this.
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Forums / Break Room / Re: Qs about sex
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on: April 15, 2012, 11:35:41 AM
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So i guess guys like a woman who can be quiet and just be there. lol.
Like a car when you need one? I'm
teasing a little. But I think many men want a woman akin to a dog -
that worships him and follows him around adoringly, always glad to see
him come home, and always excited to go anywhere with him for a ride in
the car. 
The
study of dogs.. what a wonderful science..how they relate to men? I
guess a lot of women who have men who do not focus on their needs leave
them to their dogs as the last relationship. lol A dog sometimes is a
mans best friend. lol But seriously what does the bible say about
dogs? Well they act on impulse with a tendency to bark and bite. A dog
always is looking for scraps as a competition for the homeless on the
streets. Wow this is a vivid picture. I learned from these definitions
that dogs in the bible are like curses... i dont mean they die but
actually for some wicked men they last longer on this earth. I like to
think of a dog as an animal that proves that God is just and will judge
the wicked. So the dogs are actually said to be left to lick up the
blood of our abusers. Now that is not what i say but its
exactly what the bible says. I guess in this context the dog and the
male testosterone are competing for helping the poor. lol Now
this is interesting because it may be that the dogs who are compared to
those who teach a works salvation actually attack the helpless by taking
even the scraps from their tables and using them for themselves. Which
is a system that is built on some kind of relationship in replacing
grace with something offered as salvation. So a dog actually is a
Pharisee who takes authority for himself and gives the impression that
what he offers is the only hope for a hurting soul. lol And you can be
sure it doesnt cost him anything. lol So we see the dogs are
those who feast on the poor and steal from them in wages and in
authoritative relationships in which they torment them. Now this may be
more like what Christ was saying that those people will in the end
actually have these animals lick their blood when they are judged by
Jesus. Which to me is a much more graphic picture of Gods just
recompense. lol Oh well i am kind of superstitious about dogs when it
comes to God raising his rite hand against these legalist. The moral of
this story.. you better be careful about leaving your husband to live
with a dog.. lol LOL LMAO Ok its was a joke...
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: My sheep hear My voice
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on: April 09, 2012, 12:10:48 PM
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I believe the Shepherd speaks to us all...
"There are other sheep who are not of "this sheep pen".
Can we once again say, "mystery"?
Knowing
you on this forum for a long time i believe you have a big God... and
if i was to say that you error its certainly on the good side. Obviously
we are not the author of salvation so i agree .....only God knows...but
as for you and i it better not be all mystery ...as i know you know
Him....and yet i can get a bit pesky being His servant and being
promised so much. lol
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