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I always go from this premise that if i know
what to do i do not need someone else to tell me. lol. If i am too weak
to accomplish the task then i dont need someone who is the same way in
other things to change me. What i need is someone who can meet my need
and give me the power to overcome my weakness . lol... I need the real
remedy not the one that is promised if i take this or that burden on
myself in order to do a program. lol. Thats just not living life with
confidence. This is what keeps people in ignorance of real doctrines and
the application of the gospel. We should be slow to speak about the
solution and quick to listen. I dont mean slow to speak of encouraging
someone who is struggling . Or slow to apply the gospel. Because we are
promised if we fulfill our part in encouraging the weak then we can
argue our case in the courts of heaven. Listen we want a remedy that no
man can provide. Only One Man. All other men put their pants on the same
way we do. They can only offer us advice. But advice is not absolute or
one way. In the end is still our decision.
The problem with
weak men is they want someone else to tell them what to do instead of
looking for a real solution. And the ones who are used to telling others
what they already should know are just trying to change them so they
can look good. There are people who will want counsel on what color to
wear. lol... I always say do something yourself and if its wrong at
least you made up your own mind. Since when did science make us so damn
weak?
We are sinners. Anyone who applies the doctrine of sin
will do it based upon his own methods of applying it in a personal way.
If the teaching about sin comes from the position of one being on a
pedestal and saying they have obeyed then turn and run as fast as you
can. By the time they get done talking about you.. spying on you... and
destroying your honor you will not be able to recover. lol. I recently
had someone stalk me because he did not like the way i answered him...
people who have guns scare the bageebers out of me. lol Listen we live
before God as sinners who must not be surprised that God knows more than
we do about our sin. Some of us act as tho the last person we approach
about our sin is God. Dont be a man pleaser.
Dont join the
fraternity ... i beg you. Dont try to join something that offers steps
as a way to be in the group. Stay away from mans rewards and promises. I
dont mean to not accept them just dont put your confidence in them.
Dont let someone control your life even if you struggle to the point of
giving up. The art of fighting sin is in being able to resist the
temptation to not get up. Every day is a new day. Dont let people define
you by your sin. Dont say anything. Dont promise anything and dont talk
about other people. Learn to trust in God alone and keep quiet about
your private life. Only share the gospel. Learn to use your sin as a
cause to turn your eyes off yourself and onto the gospel. Learn to fight
private wars with sin. Dont trust in man. Men will only please the
winners. They will only reward the successful people. God goes rite down
into our miry clay and teaches us the gospel .
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Freedom For The Addicted
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on: June 12, 2011, 02:18:48 PM
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mbG: "As long as man is corrupted he is addicted to something."
K_k:
Glad we can agree on yet another thing. All people are addicted to
something unless they have been set totally free by Christ (in this life
by death, most often). Only when we love God with all our hearts,
minds, souls and strengths are we free from some degree of sin addiction
-- which is idol worship.
Kk believes that a man can be free
enough to not practice sin. He calls this total freedom. So kk is
preaching perfectionism even tho he may say its equal work in reaching
it. Which is a contradiction. Every man is born into a world where
there are authorities who practice misuses of the law. So we say that
man is born into a world of powers that are too strong for him. This is
the natural experience of a corrupted man born in a corrupted world. To
deny this is to deny reality. The paradigm of need in describing the
reality of the inner man is on the basis of a transaction in the art of
grace. This is what Austin described as a vacuum in the heart of man
that can only be filled by the gospel or the redeeming Savior. The
vacuum is filled by grace alone through faith alone in Christ alone! When
we feel alone we feel minus the power of the gospel in bondage to the
power of expectation. What frees us to answering the personal need as it
is expected to be met. When expectation meets powers that are not
gospel powers the need becomes unfulfilled. But a righteous desire is
filled by the answer of the expectation. So the righteous desire is the
spiritual nature of the simple answer of the gospel. I am in great need
and there is only one remedy..He saved me..lol. So that in our natural
experience we are always faced with powers that are too strong for us.
In the vacuum of an unregenerate man is the experience of self
confidence at the expense of seeing these powers as being overcome in a
mans own ability or a shared ability as Kk believes. But real answers
come only from a supernatural determination. Our vacuum is filled in the
saving word of grace. God works in the inner man only when the powers
are acknowledge as too strong for us. This is the real world.
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Forums / Prayer Requests / South Lake Home Educators
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on: June 12, 2011, 01:12:12 PM
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I was at a graduation yesterday in which
there were about 7 or 8 seniors who had been through the program since
my son was a little tot. This movement has grown to be twice the size
when my wife was the President. But these kids i have known for as long
as the group has been together. I was more encouraged by this event than
i get encouraged in a religious service. Thats how far we have fallen
as a nation. I witnessed parents who had a natural love for
their kids by proving it in providing the grounds for a mature
relationship through these yrs of supporting their kids with spiritual
gifts and being involved in their kids lives. We developed a ceremony in
which the kids who were graduating brought their parents to the front
and each parent talked about the experience of teaching their kids and
blessing their kids in the future of their lives. Then the kids tell
their parents how they have appreciated being love in that way. The
whole graduation ceremony is super-naturalistic and individualistic. I
feel blessed. I was deeply moved and was so proud to see this
happening in a day and age in which the leaders are not examples but are
in it for their own purposes. I saw genuine support and real love! I am
so proud of the leaders of the home school group who have been passed
the baton so to speak and have carried on these fundamental cultural old
ways. I was taken back to the old style of reality and did not want to
leave to go back into this upside down world of greed and hardness. My
wife was involved with the support group and leadership this yr but has
taken a back seat because of the pressures of working a job with the
economy the way it is.And with my talented sons graduating a few years
ago. All of the problems i have were forgotten as i watched these kids
from elementary to senior high school move up to the next grade. These
kids did artistic talent shows, each parent wrote a bio of the yr and
the accomplishments of their children ... the special gifts their kids
were showing and encouraging their kids for the next yr. A lot of the
kids were memorizing scripture... playing instruments... stage
acting....taking part in leader ship programs and practicing skills that
will one day be a benefit to their particular field of work. I
witnessed a world of true leadership! I havent been encouraged like this
in a long time. These kids are so talented! They make my life special. http://www.homeschool-life.com/fl/slhe/ |
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Forums / Politics Forum / Re: Labor vs Management
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on: June 12, 2011, 12:46:07 PM
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Miami Hundreds rally to demand jobs, criticize corporate greed Unemployed
and sympathetic Miami-Dade residents marched down Biscayne Boulevard
Saturday to voice their discontent with corporate greed and privatized
healthcare. By Daniela Abratt dabratt@MiamiHerald.comDaniel
Estinfort served in the United States military for 10 years, during
which he was deployed to Iraq three times. In 2002, he earned a
bachelor’s degree in criminal justice and began his pursuit of a
master’s in international relations in 2005. Today, the Homestead resident is unemployed. Estinfort
is just one of about 500 people who marched down Biscayne Boulevard on
Saturday afternoon, waving flags and chanting, “We want jobs!” and “Down
with greed!” The march began in Bayfront Park in downtown Miami
and was the conclusion of a two-hour rally to promote awareness about
unemployment issues and corporate taxes. “I’m here to protest
against corruption and greed against the people,” Estinfort said. “The
tiny little minority on top gets everything. They get all the tax cuts,
and we, the people, are paying.” The rally was hosted by 1Miami, a
grass-roots movement and coalition comprised of Miami residents and
organizations like Democracia U.S.A., Florida New Majority and Service
Employees International Union. José Suárez, director of
communications for 1Miami, said large Florida corporations . are paying
what they legally have to, but they are making billion-dollar profits
and receiving huge tax cuts. He said they should give back. “It
just doesn’t make sense,” he said. “The county residents are bearing the
burden. People are searching for jobs. We want one Miami that works for
everyone.” The rally attracted a range of residents from across
Miami-Dade County, including those who are unemployed and lack health
insurance. Patients and employees of the Jackson Health System and
ideological supporters also attended. Representatives from
Jackson handed out stickers, orange balloons and flyers about the
consequences of the proposed privatization of the hospital and its
affiliates. “Jackson is a great place to work, but they’ll be
closing services to the uninsured,” said Samuel Ruiz, a registered nurse
at Jackson Memorial Hospital. Little River resident Dulene
Saintilien said her husband works at Jackson, and she’s afraid he might
lose his job at a tough time for their family. Saintilien will lose her
job at the end of the month when the child-care facility she has worked
at for the past three years will close because of lack of funds. “I have car payments, credit cards bills and four children,” she said. “And if they privatize Jackson? No way!” The
event’s emcee led the rally as a mock trial, providing points of
evidence against large Florida corporations. Each point was followed by
“eye witnesses,” county residents who shared their stories of struggle
and provided testimonies against big spending and joblessness. The grand jury released its “guilty” verdict and began its march, led by a small band of hand-drummers and steel-horn players. Blowing
whistles and waving noisemakers, the audience embraced and high-fived
as it delivered a poster-size “indictment” to their final destination at
the Wells Fargo building at 333 SE Second Ave. Luis Cerros, of Little Havana, marched with the group. “We want to tell them the citizens of Miami are angry,” he said. “Enough is enough.” Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2011/06/10/2262490/hundreds-rally-to-demand-jobs.html#ixzz1P51qKTGpI
will say this... it is the most creative protest of our times. Get a
bunch of unemployed people and a few leaders and protest in the form of a
declaration. Kind of like the Boston tea party. When the British were
taxing the americans and we were not receiving any of the benefits.. it
was profits. I am not a liberal but i am against any form of
Imperialism. I am against Fascism in any form.
"Declare them guilty
Oh Lord, let them be caught in their own intrigues!"(: a scheming or
crafty action or artful design intended to accomplish some usually evil
end <backstage machinations … that have dominated the film industry —
Peter Bogdanovi)Ceremonies are very good ways to send a
message and to release the anger. Peaceful demonstrations are
constitutional. Israel had ceremonies but they were in the context of
the temple and not in the judicial institution. "The mighty One God the
Lord speaks and summons the earth.. .from the rising of the sun to the
place where it sets."This was a ceremony in the Temple that brought
justice to the people of Israel. God judged the nations by disciplining
His elect about their holding idols and then declaring them innocent if
they were thankful. (A justified state. ) So God worked righteous in the
temple worship and brought grace to the idol worshipers and at the same
time Gods curses toward the nations were enforced in this judgement.
This was a ceremony for Christ rule to be carried out on all the nations
who would not "kiss the Son!" This is what that Psalm is saying in the
context of the covenant keeping God!
But this is a very crafty way to
make the abuses of Imperialism public. If we do not protest now then
the next thing will be full Fascism.
They go to the steps of the
court house.. hold a mock trial and declare the Imperialism guilty of
greed... wow... then they march to the place where the money is held and
they protest. Very good... hope to see more of this from both sides of
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: The Guide for the Perplexed by Moses Maimonides
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on: June 11, 2011, 12:53:50 PM
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IT is well known that the verb yalad means "to
bear," "they have born (ve-yaledu) him children" (Deut. xxi. 15). The
word was next used in a
p. 20
figurative sense with
reference to various objects in nature, meaning, "to create," e.g.
"before the mountains were created" (yulladu) (Ps. xc. 2); also, "to
produce," in reference to that which the earth causes to come forth as
if by birth, e.g., "He will cause her to bear (holidah) and bring forth"
(Isa. Iv. 10). The verb further denotes, "to bring forth," said of
changes in the process of time, as though they were things which were
born, e.g., "for thou knowest not what a day may bring forth" (yeled)
(Prov. xxvii. 1). Another figurative use of the word is its application
to the formation of thoughts and ideas, or of opinions resulting from
them: comp. "and brought forth (ve-yalad) falsehood" (Ps. vii. 14);
also, "and they please themselves in the children (yalde) of strangers"
(Isa. ii. 6), i.e., "they delight in the opinions of strangers."
Jonathan the son of Uzziel paraphrases this passage, "they walk in the
customs of other nations."
A man who has instructed another in
any subject, and has improved his knowledge, may in like manner be
regarded as the parent of the person taught, because he is the author of
that knowledge: and thus the pupils of the prophets are called "sons of
the prophets," as I shall explain when treating of the homonymity of
ben (son). In this figurative sense, the verb yalad (to bear) is
employed when it is said of Adam, "And Adam lived an hundred and thirty
years, and begat (va-yoled) a son in his own likeness, in his form"
(Gen. V. 3). As regards the words, "the form of Adam, and his likeness,"
we have already stated (ch. i.) their meaning. Those sons of Adam who
were born before that time were not human in the true sense of the word,
they had not "the form of man."
With reference to Seth who had been instructed, enlightened and brought to human perfection,
it
could rightly be said, "he (Adam) begat a son in his likeness, in his
form." It is acknowledged that a man who does not possess this "form"
(the nature of which has just been explained) is not human, but a mere
animal in human shape and form. Yet such a creature has the power of
causing harm and injury, a power which does not belong to other
creatures. For those gifts of intelligence and judgment with which he
has been endowed for the purpose of acquiring perfection, but which he
has failed to apply to their proper aim, are used by him for wicked and
mischievous ends; he begets evil things, as though he merely resembled
man, or simulated his outward appearance. Such was the condition of
those sons of Adam who preceded Seth. In reference to this subject the
Midrash says:
"During the 130 years when Adam was under rebuke he begat spirits,"
i.e.,
demons; when, however, he was again restored to divine favour "he begat
in his likeness, in his form." This is the sense of the passage, "Adam
lived one hundred and thirty years, and he begat in his likeness, in his
form" (Gen. v. 3).
Now this is interesting...the difference between the natural mind and the enlighten and taught mind
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: T.U.L.I.P. blooms
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on: June 11, 2011, 10:47:38 AM
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mybig god;
You
state: Sir i am not trying to be rude but direct. . . . . . the creeds,
confessions, and the Reformation teachers point to the scripture in an
accurate way
and later: So that as to the clear doctrines of
grace. . . of which i have written about and have disagreed with men
for about 6 yrs on here.
These two statements alone are not
compatible with each other. You see, men's beliefs are NOT pointing to
Scripture- in fact it is Scripture that should point to men's belief. . .
in other words, we believe because that is what Scripture says, not
because that is what we believe Scripture says. As far as Calvinism and
Armenianism pointing to the "clear doctrines of grace", Calvinism,
taken to its extreme is legalism, and armenianism taken to its extreme
is libertarianism. One would present a grace by works, and the other
would present an absence of works without grace. . . and that is a
doctrine of grace to you?
I have made my statements, not vague
but very descriptive here: I believe in the Bible. I can see the points
on both sides, but they are both right, and wrong. They are man made
and they are philosophical.
Kings kid: I can agree with the
last part of your statement, but I am not certain that these two could
be rectified without Christ returning. . . and that is not necessarily a
bad thing. They both have good points, but so often philosophical
arguments become a hinderance to the Spirit as opposed to a blessing
from them.
The bible is a book that does not present
contradictions. This means that all truth is joined together as each
word of the bible as if they was connected to a fishing line. The bible
as the 66 books is the contained supernatural cause of all reality. The
words are not just the means but they are Trinitarian activity. So
we say that the bible is not separated into doctrine and practice as an
absolute barrier. But rather the one produces the other. In the ot
wisdom books we are given a proper way to reason about doctrine and
practice. The purpose of the individual laws and studying the torah was
to make man feel a sense of helplessness to focus on the laws and turn
man to focus on the personal nature of relationship. In a simple
understanding of the way a wise man is to reason we are given two
covenants. The covenant of grace given to Abram and the covenant of
works given at mount Sinai. Now listen... i know what Judaism teaches. I
love Jerusalem. I pray for Israel because Gods covenant of love is a
heart for His people! I understand their focus on doing . But if you
study the worship motif and the wisdom books you will find these are in
the context of grace alone by faith alone through Christ alone. I
acknowledge that the more laws one is exposed to the more tendencies to
teach old wives tales. The ot experience was one of focus and not law
keeping. It was focused on healthy teaching and not the doing of the
law. With a closer look at the way Abram reasoned you see in Romans that
he was a gospel preacher like the apostle. The ot motif of
doctrine and practice was in the connection in the context of the
teaching of the prophets and the priest as how these two covenants were
to interact in the covenant member. When ever you see the command you
will see the covenant of grace in the same context.These covenants are
never mixed but they stand not as equals because equals nullify one
another... create power that was never given to men and open up all
kinds of false applications in the mechanism of majoring on the minors.
But covenant faithfulness is grace that precedes covenant obedience so
that a man is led along by rewards and not punishment. The fear of God
mentality is rewards only for the grace group.
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Freedom For The Addicted
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on: June 11, 2011, 10:29:46 AM
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my big god:
You just made the case in point. Please read your post again. . .
To
state that anything can be an addiction is not aligned with biblical
truth is a great error. An addiction is simply the act of worship to an
idol. The philosophical question then becomes simply thus: What is an
idol?
An idol can be anything, from a sports car to a bar; it
can be personal, such as pride, or public such as worship of politics.
Anything that draws our worship outside of God then becomes an idol.
I
go on ... i appreciate your demeanor ... its comforting to be able to
disagree in an intelligent way. But idol addictions are not out there
but in here. Not on this forum but in the hearts of people on this
forum. An addiction or idol is anything i put before God as an image of
myself that is not correct. This is why Calvin says we are idol
makers.lol I think David was talking about idols that identify
him with the non elect that are in covenant community. I do not think
David was talking about idols in the context of purity or sinlessness.
lol. I am also under the opinion that subversive speech
is acceptable in some situations .. especially in the context of war.
Paul hid from the authorities as a fugitive for the gospel. Christ
stayed away from Bethlehem to avoid prosecution. The christian
experience of idol worship is not just a false image but giving men
power that they do not possess in reality. Think about this. More
men worship other men because of their position that have no glaring sin
in their lives. The moral necessity is to apply it to the plight of all
men as it is in community in the context of christian wholeness. Other
wise Jim Jones should have been obeyed because of his position!
Obviously the right thing to do would confront the abuser in order to
show that we hate idols and love God. So idol worship is not just an
activity but a disposition of evil. As long as man is corrupted he is
addicted to something.
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Our riches in Christ
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on: June 11, 2011, 08:24:47 AM
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my big God:
Please explain what you mean by this statement: "We live in the bubble of Christ protection. "
The
reason why I ask is because I just got done reading another post in
which you claim that God does not love everyone the same. If that is the
case, how can we all live in the bubble of Christ (sic) protection if
He does not love us all the same?
Thanks for your forthcoming explanation.
I
was responding to Kk about the statement that with God is not respecter
of persons. And if God sees everyone one as equal then why is not
everyone and everything the same? Is it because everyone expresses their
differences outside of Gods control? If God sees everything equal in
importance and purpose there would be no distinction in good and evil
that parallels personal identity. In an impersonal universe there would
be no real joy, sorrow, purpose, peace, because man could not experience
a distinct communication of God in an individual sense. There would be
no change because man could not find identity outside of equality. There
would be no figures of speech in comparison because of equality. Man
would be destine to live a life of sameness and not being gifted with
rewards. Christ has shown that He is the only real man. When we
are talking about the attributes of humanness , Christ entered time as
the only man who lived to the highest possible example and purpose of a
man on this earth. Not only that but Christ surpassed all other men in a
way that we can say that He alone is the real man and all others in
comparison are animals. Because a man who sins is like a beast of the
field. When we were regenerated Christ became our substitute. I
do not think the bible teaches that Christ work was applied to us in a
way in which we are separated from Christ as an example of Christ. But
by substitution He actually is our life. This is true union.
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Forums / Politics Forum / Re: The Federalist Papers
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on: June 10, 2011, 02:14:01 PM
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Concerning Dangers from Foreign Force and Influence
For the Independent Journal.
Author: John Jay
To the People of the State of New York:
WHEN
the people of America reflect that they are now called upon to decide a
question, which, in its consequences, must prove one of the most
important that ever engaged their attention, the propriety of their
taking a very comprehensive, as well as a very serious, view of it, will
be evident.
Nothing is more certain than the indispensable
necessity of government, and it is equally undeniable, that whenever and
however it is instituted, the people must cede to it some of their
natural rights in order to vest it with requisite powers. It is well
worthy of consideration therefore, whether it would conduce more to the
interest of the people of America that they should, to all general
purposes, be one nation, under one federal government, or that they
should divide themselves into separate confederacies, and give to the
head of each the same kind of powers which they are advised to place in
one national government.
It has until lately been a received and
uncontradicted opinion that the prosperity of the people of America
depended on their continuing firmly united, and the wishes, prayers, and
efforts of our best and wisest citizens have been constantly directed
to that object. But politicians now appear, who insist that this opinion
is erroneous, and that instead of looking for safety and happiness in
union, we ought to seek it in a division of the States into distinct
confederacies or sovereignties. However extraordinary this new doctrine
may appear, it nevertheless has its advocates; and certain characters
who were much opposed to it formerly, are at present of the number.
Whatever may be the arguments or inducements which have wrought this
change in the sentiments and declarations of these gentlemen, it
certainly would not be wise in the people at large to adopt these new
political tenets without being fully convinced that they are founded in
truth and sound policy.
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Forums / Theology Forum / Re: The Guide for the Perplexed by Moses Maimonides
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on: June 09, 2011, 08:46:50 PM
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THE two Hebrew nouns ish and ishshah were
originally employed to designate the "male and female" of human beings,
but were afterwards applied to the "male and female" of the other
species of the animal creation. For instance, we read, "Of every clean
beast thou shalt take to thee by sevens," ish ve-ishto (Gen. Vii. 2), in
the same sense as ish ve-ishshah, "male and female." The term zakar
u-nekebah was afterwards applied to anything designed and prepared for
union with another object Thus we read, "The five curtains shall be
coupled together, one (ishshah) to the other" (aḥotah) (Exod. xxvi. 3).
It
will easily be seen that the Hebrew equivalents for "brother and
sister" are likewise treated as homonyms, and used, in a figurative
sense, like ish and ishshah.
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Forums / Politics Forum / Re: The Federalist Papers
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on: June 09, 2011, 08:39:55 PM
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In the progress of this discussion I shall
endeavor to give a satisfactory answer to all the objections which shall
have made their appearance, that may seem to have any claim to your
attention.
It may perhaps be thought superfluous to offer
arguments to prove the utility of the UNION, a point, no doubt, deeply
engraved on the hearts of the great body of the people in every State,
and one, which it may be imagined, has no adversaries. But the fact is,
that we already hear it whispered in the private circles of those who
oppose the new Constitution, that the thirteen States are of too great
extent for any general system, and that we must of necessity resort to
separate confederacies of distinct portions of the whole. [1] This
doctrine will, in all probability, be gradually propagated, till it has
votaries enough to countenance an open avowal of it. For nothing can be
more evident, to those who are able to take an enlarged view of the
subject, than the alternative of an adoption of the new Constitution or a
dismemberment of the Union. It will therefore be of use to begin by
examining the advantages of that Union, the certain evils, and the
probable dangers, to which every State will be exposed from its
dissolution. This shall accordingly constitute the subject of my next
address.
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