6422	Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Exclusive psalmody	on: April 29, 2008, 01:47:52 PM
I understand i think, that is really deep, I know that something different than we are is available. I think that is a working principle not only in our present circumstances but as a continuing reality in progressive revelation. Now i do not think that we make new revelation. But i do think that the saints who have gone before us have spoken a much better reality. Now heres the thing, even tho we have the word as it was written in the past, yet it is an eternal word, which is that it is not only a word, but it is God who is in the word. Every word is Trinitarian so that a present working of the word is a better understanding of the paradigm of that word. But then there is an illumination process that creates the reality. Now there is a lack of understanding even tho the life of that paradigm of the reality of the word exist. So that we are always going from an experience of the word, to a distant experience of its effects. I think thats why we are always encouraged to keep our eyes on Christ. And then we have all of these saints who have progressively keep their eyes on Christ so that there is a progression even better than the apostle Paul experienced. But it wasnt that the potential was not there at the time of even David. So that the new explains the old much better , and yet they are not different. But there is a different disposition in my meditation of 2 hrs in the psalms, than in my normal daily routine. So that in a sense we draw near, having a better understanding of the nature of the paradigm of being near. And it is in the word that we can never get to the bottom of , Even Christ in His human nature is still understanding in eternity. But there is a distinct confidence in these prayer and praise paradigms that have an effect in a sense that they cause a new believing in the new nearness. So that when we draw near , we actually are having a view of the eternal nature of being in Christ. Or we are being changed into His image, which is the whole man, even to some extent in our bodies. The communicative nature of being in that high view of God in the psalms is that we get to a place were our communication between the soul and the body, cause us to want to be balanced in the illumination. So we really are at a better place having that transformation. And we have these visions of Christ by that transformation. So that we look on Christ and then we are reminded of who we are in eternity. So that in a sense we are in heaven as we are raise up in this time more than those who were raised up at that time. We have to see that every thing has already been given, and that we are already having the same function like Christ had won the rule over all things, in us being in Him.  I am extremely animated rite now, you all half to excuse me.
Reply Quote Notify

6423  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Anger? on: April 29, 2008, 12:45:33 PM Well all of this future life beyond this earth is so much bigger and better than we could ever imagine. And i guess that , in some ways we are experiencing a taste of this now. Here we have the eternal word of the living God, so that when we receive the eternal paradigm of that word we are actually becoming familiar with being face to face with Him as if He were speaking directly to us. And yet i guess that pain is keeping us from having a false idea of ourselves in the taste. It really curbs the appetite for dwelling on the law. Christ is here, in the Spirit, having fellowship with the saints , for the purpose of bringing Him glory through us , when He decides to use us as we are living before Him. And if we love that kind of dwelling then we are going to have a different view of our struggles. Grace is more than a hope, it is the reality of experiencing His power. So we are raised up in our minds , being pulled from what we can see here. And in that , we meet Him, as if He were to grab us by the hand , and we sit with Him, feeling His overwhelming powerful love. I guess, since He loved us first, then there is nothing that we can think of or experience that He does not have His love involved in our circumstances. But really dwelling in His eternal power, is having a sense of Him in that reality. What we know of a friend is what He does and says in our behalf. So that what we know of His eternalness, is what we know of Him. And we have such an overwhelming return of His goodness in our thinking that we are led by our view , to see Him in that taste of goodness. Reply Quote Notify

6424	Forums / Main Forum / Re: Hidden in Him..new identity and First Love..	on: April 29, 2008, 11:35:22 AM
The message is what determines the doing. The focus is what determines the message. God is absolutely sovereign over every thing in the universe. So that He revealed Himself as God and man. Fully God and fully man. He was the only real man. So that all of our view of life is determined by Him. We cannot trust in our own way. So that we not only know Him as an example, but we know Him as our all in all. He determines the beginning of our lives and the end of our lives. Our reality begins the moment we know Him. There is no other reality of beginning. We not only began in Him when we were saved, but we began in Him before the foundation of the world in the sense that He determined to know us, even when we were His enemies. So that our lives in the past are complete in Him, when we look back at were we come from. Thats why the apostle could say that he was guilty of no mans blood. We are not a product of our parents for having the purpose in our lives. The only thing we received in our past from our parents was the sin nature. So that we look at our identity in His eternal reason for our existence. When we look back at the reason we were born we look back before the first man was born. So that we are no longer in Adam as our identity. We are in the second Adam. Even tho we suffered from our being in bondage to sin, we no longer look back as having a reason for sinning. We are not identified in that life. Our identity was revealed to us when we were saved as from eternity. Any other view is man rebelling against the sufficiency of Christ. When men put themselves in that position , they make themselves a god. Their view of themselves as being a product of this earthly authority is what defines their view of Christ. Our view of ourselves being in Christ is not only what transpires in our growth in faith, but our view of what we were in salvation from eternity. 6427  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Bible test on: April 29, 2008, 09:38:00 AM Quote from: earl on April 29, 2008, 09:19:16 AM Quote from: Joker on April 29, 2008, 07:53:04 AM Yet to all who received him, to those who believed in his name, he gave the right to become children of God  - John 1:12 13children born not of natural descent, nor of human decision or a husband's will, but born of God. Now does the following verse contradict the word receive? IOW I read the verse that you quoted as saying "those who received Him, were the ones who first believed. I find nurmerous passages say "believe" Jesus and not "receive" Jesus. All the references to "receive" appear to me as something God gives us without our grabbing. Sort of a gift that God gives without us "taking" it. Ephesians 2:8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this not from yourselves, it is the gift of God—  When we say that salvation is by grace alone, we mean that in our natural state we are slaves to sin and darkened in our understanding. We cannot know God, we are completely darkened so that we are slaves to our imaginations of who God is. We cannot understand spiritual things. Unless God comes calling us we are hopelessly on our way to depravity and judgment. We not only are in the dark, but we are at odds with God in the relationship. So that we are alienated from God, not knowing His love, but only experiencing His anger. The anger we have in our natural state is expressed by our hate for Him, and His letting us hate Him more and more. He gives us exactly what we want. If He would express His anger in another way we would all have died in our sins. But God is patient with us.  When God calls us to Himself, we cannot resist that call. When He calls He regenerates us. He gives us new life, so that we desire life rather than death. We get new desires , so that we long for His gifts and promises. We now long for God. He also gives us a new will. Our old will is destroyed. He gives us a new knowledge. The knowledge is the Knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. It is the effervescent knowledge that comes from the glory of Christ. We become pleased with the knowledge of the glory of Christ.  We also are given saving faith as a gift. We actually have a transaction. He regenerates us, and we receive Hm by the faith He gives us. Its choosing Him by that new faith. We receive Christ by an act of our wills. The reason we choose Christ is because we see Him as the only object that is worthy of our believing. So that He becomes the object of our faith in our receiving all of the promises and all of the valuable saving things as a result of His revelation. 6442  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: The ways of man on: April 26, 2008, 01:09:16 PM Men are always searching for a way that is not Gods way. That is why from birth men are going astray. First because in the heart of each man is a confidence that is in his own power. Every man is born with a disposition of self confidence. That is why they naturally are blind to being dependent upon Gods way. Men will not think that they are unrighteous in themselves, but they want to go the way of self will, and then search out any other way than going the way of self destruction. The natural form of self love is not going down into the abyss of grief of having that self love. So that men say they are free by their pride in their choices. This is why men are quick to judge and slow to receive self hate. God requires a foreign ability to do good. Men think their goodness is not foreign. God is angry with the wicked everyday. Not because they are wicked by their deeds but because they are wicked by their desires and thoughts. God requires good desires. Men think that good desires are their freedom to do good in their choices. But these are not good, rather they are men trying to be good apart from Gods ways of thinking. The resting in natural thinking is the way by which men hate God. The sin is in the passive pride. God not only deserves to be praise for His creation, but He deserves to be praised for His gracing us with the ability to do good. So that men must come to the point in which they relinquish their own will. They must see that their own strength is pride. But men will not go that far in believing. They will allow God to be second in their thoughts as long as the requirement is not for them to acknowledge their own schemes that are an affront to Gods ways. When God speaks He works in that word to change mans ways of thinking. Every word of God is a new way for men. Men will stop at the point of living in their own confidence and will go no further to understand Gods word and ways. But Gods ways are the ways of self hatred. If men trust in their own strength then they will not know the strength of God. When men are weaken and undecided about what will be done without their own strength is when they will see Gods strength. Unless the path is supernatural then men are scheming in their own pride. 6449  Forums / Theology Forum / Re: Exclusive psalmody on: April 25, 2008, 04:15:21 PM  We do not sing from the Psalter, but since i have memorized most of the Psalms they are my meditation in my private pray and worship. I can understand why they are important , since by them there is a more clear understanding of the difference between sentimentalism and the necessary elements of understanding the nature of who God is. Some of the hymns are sentimental in nature even tho they are very doctrinal. And although i love to sing doctrine, yet there is a feeling of mushiness and more of a defense attitude about Christ rule that are not there in the spirit of the Psalms.  The psalms are a fortress for those who are in trouble, those who have a misunderstanding of the holiness of God, and those who are relationally deceived. The Psalms create the dispositional qualities of kingdom living, by having the necessary components of creating a worship that is pure. They are the vehicle by which the Spirit recreates the soul. The psalms create the intellectual discernment so as to keep a person from being deceive by a religion of the masses. In the Psalms is the perfect ending of selfish anger, and the beginning of Gods love in experience. They create  the place where we leave all of our inordinate inhibitions, and come out with a  holistic attitude of spiritual awareness. The psalms are the counselor of the soul. They are the only permanent trustworthy systemic medicine that we have to answer every soul malady. In the psalms we have the end of the society of accusers in Gods determining for them to be dealt with in an ongoing spiritual element through redeeming activity by the means of prayer or the just recompense of judgment by those spiritual paradigms. It creates in the working out of Gods design a society of lovers by the sovereign nature to reality in those spiritual paradigms of fervent communication. They give us the indirect way to deal with all of the practical problems that come as a result of living in this world by creating sovereign action to create peace in our surroundings.