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« Reply #2 on: November 26, 2010, 11:42:36 AM »
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Christ in us scriptures is the seed of the word of God that was implanted in us when we were regenerated. We received the Spirit of God who took up residence in us as the only voice. The Spirit subdued our wills by killing our old will and the word became flesh to us. The Spirit and the Word began to rule in our lives. This means that direction of our lives too a 180 degree turn. We no longer belong to ourselves.
The word is the instrument that pronounces judgment and victory in making our paths straight. Just like the fire of God goes before Him so the Spirit and the word go before us to lead us into all Truth. I am starting to develop this concept in a more detailed way. Because the word of God is purified seven times it is more durable and lasting than any other instrument on this earth.
Because the word in us is Gods saving declaration. Not only as to the new birth but in the future detail of our lives. This means that nothing can come into our lives unless God speaks it or decrees whatsoever comes to pass. Therefore we wait for God to speak salvation as if we seek after God.
Why is the word of God a sure word?.. because it is purified seven times. What is the metaphor for this final reality? It is the fire of God that goes out before Him and consumes His foes on every side. This word has seven judgments upon Gods enemies. I guess you could say they are the seven pronouncements or sins that are deadly. Because you cannot separate the word from the Spirit of the word. This seven times purified is that connection. Gods word is a pronouncement of judgment as well as a life giving Spirit. I think we have the workings of the seven spirits of God that go out in judgment in the saving of Gods elect. So that they produce life on the one hand and passively produce death on the other. There is always blessing and punishment.
We have the ot concept of the angel of the Lord who fights Israels battles.  This angel does the will of God.. He fights the spiritual enemies of the Lord. So we have this angel who works through the natural created order to produce the destruction of the wicked. got to go.

You need to understand the word purified seven times is in the context of protection from a specific imprint. Or a formed identity. The teaching is that the wicked way is imprinted and it comes out in words that are not Gods words. Sin comes from a sinner and when ever sinners are prospering then their imprint is on society and they produce the world view that is designed to destroy the righteous. What hope does a believer have? It is the word of God as the instrument of protection and judgment! How does God judge the wicked and self righteous? By giving them what they want! But this is a special dispensation because of the level of evil! Its when evil prospers.
We need to understand the durability of the word of God! The word of God is a supreme word or its the decrees of God from His eternal counsel. God decreed that Adam would sin... man is under the imputed sin of the first man. Man is born in sin. Out of if the entire population on this earth... God chooses a small number of men to put His love on. God must come to man because man wants to rebel being under Adams sin. So God covenants with this community of His own and calls them His children. This is the word purified seven times. He decrees and calls some men to Himself. That calling is irrevocable.
Now instead of His elect looking to themselves for change ... they look to Gods covenant from Abraham. There is only one word that is sure... its Gods promise to have a people for His own. We are required to always look away from ourselves to Gods eternal mercy... grace.. kindness and love! When we understand the cause of everything that is good then we acknowledge there is an imprint that is beyond our willing! This imprint is the spoken Word in us that becomes flesh. The words are Spirit. This is why we long to be and we are. I must get into these seven spirits that are imprinted us as our worship identity.    
« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2011, 10:42:51 AM »
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His life in us is not trading our goodness with His goodness ..or our trying to do what He did. Its not what we do that makes us acceptable to Him living in us. But its Christ in us the hope of glory. We have a life that is much bigger than we could imagine. We died with Christ. So lets think like this.
We are sinners by nature, actions, and weakness or lack of ability. We are criminals who must stand before the Judge of the universe and be tried for our sins. We have a ledger book in heaven that list our good deeds on the one side and our sins on the other. This ledger has been added up and we are charged with a bill that can never be paid. We owe more than we can pay. But God demands payment upon entering heaven. This is why all who are not found to be in Jesus Christ must pay the price for their own sins.
But God has provided a way through Christ by saving us. Christ is not our accuser but our substitute. Christ is not our friend by addition and subtraction but by grace. Christ has done more than provided us a way to be saved. He has done all the work and now we are accepted because Christ is standing in our place as the definition of our being in Christ. We have more than a friend but we actually have a new identity. There is no one who can accuse us because Christ no longer condemns us.
This means that we no longer think like we used to think in our old life. We have been bought with His blood. We no longer are possessions of any other thing. We belong to Christ. When we sin we do not try to appease Christ who alone is holy. But we turn to Christ who provided a way for us to be accepted ... not on our recorded efforts but on His work alone. So we bring nothing that is acceptable to Christ and He gives us gifts for free.
This means that we are more than whatever we think of the most attractive person in this world. We are adopted into the family of God. We are now accepted as a member of His family and there is no way we can get out of being represented by His name. So now there is nothing that keeps us from having access to Him. We have a full offer in the gospel to open fellowship with our new Heavenly Father. We no longer try to lower our standard of acceptance by an image of the most perfect man. But we fall back on Christ work that has no relation to our lives here on earth in this time. We have a much greater foundation of our future hope. Our future is dependent upon the value of His work done in His incarnation. The basis of our communication to Him is from His work on our behalf. So we have a future that cannot be fathomed. We have something good that we cannot even dream about. It is more than we could do on our own. We now belong to a Family where the gifts come to us through grace alone , by faith alone, in Christ alone.   
« Reply #17 on: July 30, 2011, 11:53:49 AM »
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We follow Christ instruction by asking Him to do as He promised in the instruction. On the one hand He provides for our daily needs, keeps us from temptation, keeps us from the wiles of the Devil and blesses us in spite of our sins. He promises to remember our sins no more, to separate our sins from us as far as the east is from the west, to not deal with us according to our sins, but encourages us to receive grace in time of need and protection from the schemes of men in that grace.
Christ bids us to rest from our works by praying according to His will. He bids us to seek this rest through His promise to lead us into the life of Christ. In other words the Spirit produces in us this single focus through our offering to Christ our insecurities, worries, and our shame and sin, and our need in our experiencing this helplessness in our resisting our enemies and these designs of the Devil to destroy us. The Spirit gives us new desires to go back to yesterdays rest we enjoyed with a new word of hope for today. So the Spirit leads us into rest in Christ from one day to the next to fulfill our longings in a more profound way as we seek that rest from day to day. So we are entering Gods eternal rest before we actually go into eternity. 
« Reply #20 on: August 11, 2011, 03:23:52 PM »
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God has an absolute promise to us. Its given to us by grace. God promises that He will save us out of His love. We must begin to see that this promise is yea and amen. Gods promise is not from our own willing it to be but its total power that we obtain has as its basis ...that power... from the work of Christ on the cross. The cross is in itself the obtaining of salvation through the work of the Trinity... alone. When we long for salvation we long for a work that was obtained in God alone. Now this speaks to us as yea and amen when we obtain this promise in assurance. We sinners receive salvation in the value it really is... that value that we could never earn, understand, or hope to keep ... on the basis of a free gift.
So now we walk as aliens in this world, not because we look at grace as something we make attractive but because we believe that we obtain confidence, peace and prosperity by receiving this gift... the most valuable commodity in this world, the unfathomable riches , the unending forgiveness, the promise of being translated into an eternal kingdom where all tears will be wiped away, in light of our sins we commit, after our willful disobedience, in light of the worse fears, sorrows, misunderstandings, as being erased on the basis of how we compare this value to our own experience. Now listen to me... all the promises are based upon someone else work. The gifts to us are poured upon us to show the value of our own weakness and sin as the back drop of Gods evidence of Christ work already done on our behalf. Think about this. There is nothing we can do, no place we can go, not even being able in our own unbelief and sorrow to thwart Gods goodness and faithfulness in giving us grace for our sins. It is finished. We can be free to jump for joy and enjoy the gifts God has given to us , knowing that He already did the work that gives us confidence even when we misuse these gifts!
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« Reply #21 on: August 11, 2011, 03:55:35 PM »
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cont...

let me apply this to you. What i just told you is the most attacked thinking that this world will ever endure. This thinking is attacked by the total realm of Satan. All around us are circumstances and invisible influences who fight to take our personal peace and freedom away in this pure gospel of grace. Ok... i said this... why would we ever be sorrowful again, why cant we enjoy this world and the gifts we receive in food and play in a way that glorifies God and does not harm us, why cant we enjoy each moment without guilt, sorrow, pain, fear etc? Because we live in a world that opposes all that God has done. They opposed Christ by trying to thwart Him from saving His people. The dogs surrounded Him , people spit and mocked Him, a band of evil men encircled Him... and you know what, they tried to kill Him before He actually finished His work in having the Father turn His face from Him. But Christ was saved from that death. His Father was watching over Him in the hour of His most trying time. But it was when He was the weakest that He face the most adversity.

This is the way we are. But we are sinful and unbelieving. So a lot of people talk like they are going to trust that Gods love is plenty reason to glorify God and enjoy Him. But then the trials come, the sorrows of this world begin to enclose, we hear the jeers of the wicked, we receive the sorrows of those who put confidence in the flesh. And then we are taught that God says things that He never really has said. We begin to hear other peoples experiences rather than making faith a personal matter. Then we begin to compare our sorrows with their joys. Now then we feel abandoned and lost.

You see God does not require us to be always at peace with what He has done. But His peace and rest is our coming to Him and as we build up these reasons why God would not help us this time. As we feel the anger rising up in us, we must present all of it to God. We must tell Him these burdens are to big for us to carry, that the evil men are surrounding us... that our faith is so weak we are going to fall... we feel like we are in bondage and we need Him set us free. Dont believe those self motivated people that say this is a sign that you must give something up. The perfect man who was on the cross felt trapped and discouraged. He saw the demons snapping at His feet. He did not sin and He cried out to His Father to deliver Him from this death! He was taken to the most sorrowful , psychologically trouble disposition that anyone could go. But He was seen and having strong cries ... loud cries,.... He shouted to His Father.. and He was saved. It may not be tomorrow ... or a week or a yr but God will store all of your cries. God is always loving God is love. He will not abandon you. There will be a brighter day. Listen just be transparent to Him. Dont believe that He has rejected you. Tell Him all of the stuff that is building up in you. Every day present your case and wait in expection.  
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2011, 11:24:03 AM »
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Christ answers all of our potential disasters. If we are angry Christ encourages us to curse with passion. He allows us to express our anger toward those who want to keep us from the way of life. Man is in his heart needy and desperate. God listen the the blood thirsty prayers of His people. Because we live in this world we experience the threats of man, and we know the world is going to be at our feet trying to destroy our life. We know that men want to cause us to stumble by the world news. We are subject to continuous threats from within and without. We feel separation from all that is patriarchal. Because we must stand alone on God we have no where to go in order to gain strength to endure this world.
Some of us do not get to the core of our anger. Some of us never obtain the full experience of our salvation. We allow these threats to cause us to withdraw in some ways. We experience anger as if God was not listening and protecting us. So we do not sit and reason with ourselves.. because we are too religious to be honest before God. We have never learned that this life is dirty and muddy. We do not consider that we experience being bloodied in this world. But as men of God we must fight with violent prayers in order to avoid this hard heart.  The heart of unbelief that causes us to withdraw into ourselves. The christian life is about God responding to stalkers and evil men who would do us wrong. We must seek the God who meets us in the mud and blood.
This is the experience that makes us harmless as doves, sensitive to the needs of others, to present confidence to those who are faltering. And to show rest to those who are anxious. Trust comes with extreme personal violence. Yes we go out to the enemy and take captive those who would harm the poor and the innocent. We get down into the dirt and blood and fight with spiritual weapons. My friends our pure robes are not completed gifted to us until we get to heaven. So we are close to the Lamb of God who has purchased us with blood. That blood that will avenge the wicked.   
« Reply #27 on: August 27, 2011, 06:43:54 AM »
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Christ dwells in us as a person. He fellowships with us. The words and these other things we see with our eyes and we touch with our hands ... they are not going to help us to sense who Christ is. But we know ourselves when we are in fellowship with the invisible Christ. Because we know every experience as we know what motivates us to be who we are. We live not only with a relationship to ourselves but to a Person who knows us better than we know ourselves. Christ is our redemption. He is our Savior. Our relationship to Him is not through the physical.
We talk and fellowship with someone who is better at knowing who we are .. what we experience before we experience it. We live in the reality of what we think we are. Our confusion about who we are is related to who Christ is. If we understood all of the glorious relational qualities that are in Christ we would experience life in a totally new confidence. Christ is what gives us a real understanding of all that we love in this life so that we respond to life in a genuine way. Our confusion about our experiences is in these personal relationships to someone Whos presence is reality.
This is why we have an ability to view ourselves. Because we have an image of all of the true longings of who we are.
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« Reply #29 on: August 28, 2011, 02:23:23 PM »
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I was praying the other day... calling upon the Lord. Now this is mysterious to me. I have a problem that is beyond help. Its that i dont have the strength to keep what i experience. I cant remember all the verses i memorized for the last thirty yrs. So i am limited in the amount of personal illuminations and the quality of those illuminations because of my corrupted weakness. You know all that work and i cant keep all of it stored up on this earth. So this prayer time led to a very big experience of this mysterious power in which i lost a sense of time. So im walking around and doing my schedule but this other power is coming in waves. Its influence is beyond my understanding. I was longing for something i could no quite obtain.
Now this experience happens to me after much meditation in the Psalms. I have lost so many of the normal communications that i used to have. Now these communication.. these other powers have such a strong influence on my experience that i am lost in the wonder of glory. Now after beginning in Revelation as the four chapters have been put in my long term memory I have in the fore front of my mind the visions of heaven. Now i have a new view of reality. In other words i am envisioning what is real as what is described in Revelation in how my experience in this life and many things i experience have little value. When different portions of scripture are read.. its like knowing the end of things and it all is lifted up above this earth as if i was viewing the glory of God in this contentious vision of heaven.  I feel raptures some times beyond this earth.  Maybe it feels like my spirit is lifting up from my body... i dont know how to explain it.
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« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2011, 04:32:12 PM »
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Kk this is one experience that we can share.. good stuff... and its a vision of something that is imaginative but is predominantly active in our human responses. Its as if we can go in and out of our sense orientation to the physical universe into a kind of overwhelming sense of mystery and having a weight transference of what the world has to offer .. into an instant kind of weightless experience that feels like levitating as you say.

This world is more occupied by heavenly beings that the population of this earth. I am confident of this. If the angels are thousands upon thousand and ten thousand times ten thousand then think of how we move in this world in light of those spiritual images that bring reality into our view. What kind of sense orientation are we affected by if we are near to how these different invisible powerful beings interact with our present experience.

There is continuous music in heaven that we are not able to hear with our physical ears. But i am confident that if we were to have our spiritual ears open and since these beings are almost filling up the universe that we are in then it must be a most glorious sound in the spiritual realm. God must rule as the basis of His word going out in this universe. 
« Reply #35 on: September 21, 2011, 10:55:01 AM »
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Christ in us is His promise to shield us from going down to the pit. Not only does He determine our end but He promises to shield us in our times of trials. Every event is determined to be for our good and for His glory. Why do we lack the faith to endure through trials so that we lean fully on Christ? Because we lack the spiritual strength to experience the effects of Christ abiding protection. As Christ goes out before us as the only light to brighten our path so we must put ourselves before Him as He is the glory of God who shines in our hearts to cause us to be transformed in the paradigm of this inward communication of these spiritual properties. Christ is our shield who will surround us as the provider of the means to protect us from utterly falling.

The Psalmist provides us with the picture of Christ abiding presence that is with us through the Holy Spirit. Its our confidence that tho the whole world is against us yet He is greater than the world. This provides us with a confidence that nothing can separate us from His love. We believe as He lights our way and we experience His favor from Him shining in our face that His love is better then our own lives. At the most trying times we are encouraged to draw near to Him by our cry that into His hands we commit our spirit. He shares His life in us in making our invisible parts come alive as the reality that He is with us. How does He do this? By shining in our faces as we ponder His word and fellowship with His Spirit. The Spirit of supplication. The Spirit who gives us songs in the nite. The Spirit who counsels us in our private times. The Spirit who goes out to defend us when we suffer the pains of this world.

Our light is always a future deliverance. In longing for and looking for a future salvation we are being drawn out in faith to believe that the things unseen will be seen. So we experience this light as if we declare what He wants. Because Christ is a shield that surrounds us we experience being drawn out in faith to believe what He has promised as if it was already fulfilled. The pain of this earth is the weight that pulls us down from this vision. But Christ has designed our salvation as a future communication to us and not necessarily our personal wish that it would be. When we are regenerated we are not left to hope as the world hopes but we receive reality in this deep communication of these secret illuminations. We have these invisible parts that are acted upon in being drawn out in our faith. These realities are the future mystery of His invisible power that is beyond our own experience in which we are drawn out by. We call this the communication of His love. Or its hoping in His word.

His word is the divine promise that He will do according to His promises more than we could ask or think. His light that surrounds us and shines in our faces is in the fellowship of experiencing the renewal of our inward parts. Its being renewed in the spirit of our minds. We are being made new in our invisible parts. This experience does not eliminate the crossover from the inanimate parts to the physical parts but it produces in us a power that comes from our inner man as the proof that He is shining in our faces. We draw our confidence in His promises as we are made to experience His love that is beyond our understanding of our own personal powers. 
« Reply #36 on: September 21, 2011, 11:39:16 AM »
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This subject is terribly important to me and through Kk God has prepared me to write about it before i actually received the illuminations. I really believe in suffering. I really believe that suffering on this earth for our good gives us more rewards in heaven. I really believe that suffering for good produces in us this divine sense of mystery in which we are freed from ourselves. That part that pulls and tugs at us to be overly focused on the events of this world.

We are fighting a long term war not a short active self fulfilling dream. This mystery is that He will lead us down a path in which we give up this world for the other world. I do not think we really have a choice. Because we are led along by a new perspective that draws us into moving in a direction that has many misunderstandings. On the one hand we have no power where He has not given us that power. So we are walking on this path that only has success as He graces us with success. We cannot turn to the rite or the left.

This is why His ways are not our ways. His thoughts are not our thoughts. Who would devise a plan where in order to advance we must decrease and He must increase as the promise that He will give us the power to move and the rewards for what we are only required to do. How can we have a real vision unless we are in this kind of constant misunderstanding and untrusting deli ma? Because we cannot escape the voice of our Shepherd. Its brought to us in our trying times as the promise of deliverance if we still our souls and listen to Him speak.If we hear that voice loud and clear. If we have expended all of our strength not only for Him but calling out to Him to speak a word of deliverance into our souls so that we are made to praise Him out of a heart of charity expanded by the communication of His love alone, then we dwell in the light of another way of explaining the experiences of our lives.

We are made to bask in losing all we have for His sake. Not that we want it to be the end of our experience but that we have in exchange His constant protection and His speaking to us loud and clear. We have the basis for our approaching His throne with loud cries and tears. My friends as we move into a more clear path of His prosperity we are made to shout our his praises and shout out our cries! Listen to me there is something prepared for us when we pass the sting of death that is beyond our ability to imagine. We must begin to measure everything in this life by this future reward to us. Its not easy because our reality is upside down to what it will be when we see Him.

Why do we dwell in our own sorrow and pity? Why do we know hope as a wish and not eternity in our hearts? Why do we turn back and retreat? Because this great mystery ... the gospel made known to us... has not freed us from ourselves. Surrender is what is happening to us as He is making us new. We have an example in Stephen as the apostle was standing there watching him die. The bible says His face shone like the face of an angel. It was a beautiful picture of the light of the glory of God ,,, the divine power that the apostle had so often described in his own visions....that this power was dwelling in Stephen. I imagine that Stephen saw this light that engulfed Him in pleasure that is unimaginable. God had already produced the reality of the other side as a glimpse of the great glory that we have not received yet.
« Reply #45 on: November 05, 2011, 12:48:15 PM »
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Christ in us saves us from ourselves. Most of us naturally trust in ourselves to change ourselves. But Christ promises to teach us through a process of determine our spiritual success by reducing us in relationship to how we feel about ourselves in light of what our horizontal relationships mold us in and as we die He becomes more and more our own identity." Christ in us the hope of glory .. it is no longer I who live but Christ lives in me. " In other words more and more we fail to experience the tension of reality in a philosophical sense.

Christ is reality. He is what we need... focus on.. look for in our safe environment and makes us wholly confident in our moment by moment consciousness on this earth. There is nothing that we do that God does not get the glory for it. If we are given any gifts on this earth it does not come from a source outside of Gods view of us. In other words Christ sees us in what He does in us and outside of us. He works in us to will and do.

Teaching is not the cause of our changing but its Christ applying the teaching to us in a supernatural way. There is no other cause of change than what comes from illumination. All truth is revealed truth. We cannot think beyond what He has created us to think.

Let me say this about the concept of heaven coming down to earth. Having meditated on these 4 chapters in the Revelation for the whole week. I believe that heaven is as close to us as the pimple on our nose. God rules every inch in this universe. And so there is this dominate reality that does not directly come into our view on this earth but it is part of the will of God that goes on through all eternity. There are angels who have access from heaven to earth as if it was time travel. Maybe even thought travel. There are these 4 creatures that are responsible for announcing and participating in the natural and supernatural judgements until God brings in the eternal kingdom. All of these creatures interact with our prayers. We must understand that God works through our prayers to work in this world from heaven with all of the forces who obey His commands.

We do not think on things of this earth but we think on the things that are above. Or we think of the visions of heaven that God has revealed to us. We do not hope in things that do not last. We are not building our little kingdom on this earth. This earth is passing away. The creatures from heaven are announcing that this earth will continue to be under the effects of Gods perfect curses. Just like these creatures covered with eyes all around who proclaim that God is thrice holy .. so they thrice work to curse the earth in a three fold way. We live in a world that is passing away. We have a vision of the way heaven is bringing these events in the future to bring in Gods eternal kingdom. Have you had this vision? Does heaven seem to be pictured in your mind more than all of the beautiful things this earth has? Listen... fill your mind with the vision of heaven. It will create a longing in you out of a beauty that has real pictures.   
« Reply #48 on: November 13, 2011, 02:48:34 PM »
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One of the things we do not consider is how we are related to God. We are always trying to make a distinction about ourselves and how we feel about our circumstances as if Gods glory were against us and we must realize that we go through something because God must alone get the glory. lol. But this is not a wise way to think. This comes from many different religious philosophies of self denial. The bible however seeks to bring us to be at peace an hope of being saved in the future as the evidence that God indeed sits on His throne as the great Shepherd of our souls. Our identity in heaven is being like the Lamb of God who has purchased us for Himself. He leads us to eternal life. Or He redeems all of our pain both personal and circumstantial in His responding to us as a loving Father.
That is why we focus on a word. But its not really the glory of God alone but its the word of salvation that brings about the glory of God. A lot of our problem is that we stop at the giving God glory but  than we do not focus on by enjoying Him. lol In fact i really believe that we cannot give God glory out of our sense of self denial but out of our understand that He loves us with an unfailing love. So i see it as we enjoy God so that we can glorify Him. lol. Listen ... we only long for one thing. Its the word of salvation.
If you search for wisdom then you will be rewarded. Not necessarily in this life ...although we are encouraged to ask and we shall receive. But i really believe that most of the disagreements we have are because we fail to think correctly about God and then we advance our own agenda that is natural to most people.Listen to me the gospel is for those who apply it to themselves as if no one else had it available to them. Outside of thinking correctly about the gospel then we just advance ourselves in how others are in our own circumstances. I am amazed at how much false information we will accept as a cog in the big process. 
« Reply #52 on: November 17, 2011, 09:00:35 AM »
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The christian is always to be reminded that God is doing things in his life that is too wonderful to imagine. I know this is a hard concept for the suffering person. But in suffering we can be strengthened in how we focus. So I guess that pain is the enemy of pleasure in themselves. This is where we get confused because its not natural for us to see God as absolutely sovereign even over our pain and conclude that He is a good God. In this sense we are closest to longing for something that does not dwell in us...something in the future that is not on this earth... and coming face to face with our inability to be empowered to see the victory. This is what the Psalmist believed was being reduced to trust in His word alone from one moment to another.

I mean there is a distinction between the word of revelation and the experience of joy from that revelation becoming alive in us. And maybe in the sense of what John is saying that we go from being a child in the faith to being a father because we go from a word to the reality in the sense that these experiences overshadow the pain at some point. Although there is no way to avoid reducing the quality of the life.

This is why God sets one man up and brings one man down. Now this concept is setting the righteous man up and bringing the wicked man down. But i can see in this world of sin that it can be experience to some extent in the community of the elect also. At some point we a are all expendable. But at the same time i do not believe that we can let the desire for heaven be stronger than our desire to live a long life. I see this as the same fight we have with our flesh. In this sense the word of salvation is a desire to be free of physical pain as the evidence of the saving effects. Some religious people get really weird when they try to separate these holistic effects between the physical and spiritual. This life is predominately resisting unto death. 
« Reply #63 on: January 21, 2012, 02:15:12 PM »
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Christ is as real as having a friend who spends all his hours at your side. Christ is present with us by the Holy Spirit. He is more present than we could imagine. In fact our Father looks at us in His community of saints and sees Christ the Shepherd. This means that Christ success is His glory being manifested through weak sinners. When our Father looks at our value in the church spreading through this world like a vine He sees the life of the vine as it flows from Heaven to Christ as He is the body.

We look and see the vine wilting under the oppressive forces of the world. We see the vine ravaged by wolves and cut so that it does not encompass the walls of the city. We are in such great need that it looks like the visible beauty of the vine and the value of the grapes is not seen. We are always struggling with being in the dessert and find that it is a lifeless experience. What do we focus on?

We need to be revived. We focus on Christ as He is the great Shepherd. Unless He shines His light in our faces we will not remain on the vine. Unless He is glorified from heaven we are in danger of wilting to death. So we call upon God the Father to look on this man at His rite hand. To show the light of His glory. When our Father looks at His vine He only looks on Christ work. He only weighs the value of the vine as it was revealed in Christ. When He values this work then we are revived. The vine is nourished to health. We must be revived by Christ being exalted in the world or the vine will die.  But it cannot die completely because we are made to see that Christ has already obtained victory over the world and sin and satan and God the Father will look upon Christ with favor and we will be revived in finding life in Him.
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Christ has gone the way of pain and misery so that we might enjoy the benefits of His work on our behalf. He sweat drops of blood in His prayers in the garden so that we might be free to enjoy His communication as a family member who is watching over us. Christ who has all power over all demons...pain..sickness and trouble is able to deliver us who are struggling in this world. Whether we endure trials with extreme injustice or personal struggles with sin and physical pain we will be delivered completely in the eternal state. The only thing separating us from something that is gifted to us that is too wonderful for us to imagine is passing over to the other side through death.
But we have nothing that matters in this life but Christ and Him crucified. Because Christ delivers us by teaching us to walk in His ways. Because He died for us we have died to sin. Sin no longer has reign over us. Not that we are completely free from sin but we are free from the guilt of sin and the abuse of the law. We died to the power of sin in that we are identified with Christ who obtained complete victory over sin and Satan and evil.
What does this experience look like? We must understand that Christ who is the eternal Son of God was always present as the mediator between God and man. In the ot David went through these wars and trials for the purpose of the Holy Spirit writing these prays down for our hour of trials. Christ spoke these prayers throughout His time on earth as He being God fellow shipped in prayer with our Father. These prayers are written down in a way that places in our hearts an experience of a king who was human that expressed himself in the most dependent way that can ever be achieved by any human on this earth. These prayers are the words of the creation of a new heart. What we need to understand is that David had as many prayers as he experienced his trials. But we have them all at our finger tips written down in a completed fashion. We have the kingdom prayers for us to pray.

 These prayers are written in such a way that they create in us the human and divine desires of Christ. I do not mean that we are divine but the words spoken are from a divine source. They are written so that we might know how Christ lives and moves in us. We might know the power of Christ. We might know that to live is Christ and to die is gain. Christ has so identified with us as sinners that His prayers are given to us so that as human beings we might have experiences of Christ in us by praying to our Father as Christ prayed.

Christ came to the earth and walked in complete submission to our Father. All that Christ did was in complete obedience to the Fathers will. We must understand that these prayers tho they have the element of confession of sin bring us to complete transparency in God removing our sins as if Christ was praying through us. So Christ has given us the prayers that focus on human weakness as if He who was sinless forgets our sin and focuses on our weakness. So we have a fellowship with Christ who was sinless in our Father looking at our weaknesses as His ground for proving that Christ obtained all the ownership of all things and we are given these things in our union with Christ. So that our weaknesses become our strength in our kingdom prayers. Christ prays through us in His prayers so that we might enjoy the promise to own all these things before we actually own them. We are being transformed from the mentality of slavery to sin and the law to being kings and priest of the Most High. This is experiencing our union with Christ through His high priestly prayers
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The word Holy in scripture is more than the ten commandments or a set of principles.But holy is other. Or its God set apart from all the creation. There is God behind the door that leads to the throne. And so holy is the mysterious unfathomable power and glory that is hidden behind the door. And this power or glory is evidenced in Gods creation. The very complicated structures of life and yet the relative ease in which they work in unison. Together with this view we enjoy the pleasure we receive when we ponder all of Gods works.

So holy leads us to worship beyond something naturally created by man.  It is power in the smallest event or created thing. Just look at the praying mantis and observe the movement of his parts that are like a hair and yet they move with precision. And look at the waves of the ocean. You hear a distinct majestic sound of the waves as they make a loud thundering and yet they fall on the water in the pearl sound. An amazing display of the mind and character of a holy God who shows forth this beauty that mesmerizes us and causes our hearts to melt with wonder and praise. 

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