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211	Forums / Break Room / Re: Why do men hate women?	on: June 30, 2014, 03:50:51 PM
Im speaking from a mans perspective so I dont mean to ignore the problems on both sides. But men pride themselves in achieving success. I grew up living and breathing sports. Sports is good because we learn that if we are successful there are rewards and respect that we get as a by product. How would you feel if you excelled at something at a young age ....8 yrs and you had adults coming up to you showing great respect? Its sort of the problems that come with being famous but on a much smaller level. So you learn that working hard equals success. But the bible teaches that aggression is not just displayed in an attempt to achieve success and rewards. But aggression starts in the way we speak about ourselves in light of the truth of Gods word. Every time you see the bible describe a liar its always follow by how they speak with threats to Gods ways. God considers threats to be how we view our own power in comparison to Gods power.  We could be the most outwardly moral looking guy ...or we could do some really bad sins and it would not be how God measures wickedness. God says that taking glory for ourselves is making war with Him. And making war with Him is His measure of wickedness. God doesnt have a sliding scale. Its either we are on the side of blame that being we are a friend of a friend of the wicked or we are on the side of love ...which is we are a friend of God who is a friend of a friend of God.  When men are blind to Gods ways they are naturally mean and aggressive to woman. It is impossible for men to live as cheerleaders to their wives if they do not understand Gods grace. There are only two kinds of creative methods. One is aggression and wicked and comes from a self made man. A self made man is a man who is his own god. This man does not believe that everything he has is gifted to him by God. So he seeks to control everything through aggression. Let me say that a coward is a man who uses language to control other people. Its a person who is threatened by the success of others. It is impossible for men to truly rejoice in the success of others in his natural state. God has ended all blame and aggression by simply speaking life and death. God does not need to speak threatening words in order to control His people. On the other hand God makes a covenant with His people that He will order all things for their good and for His glory. He calls this the covenant of redemption. God only has two ways. Either He is worse than He seems be or He is far greater and worthy than we could imagine. The reason that God is absolute in His judgements is because one small word can determine the course of a persons life. Gods measurements are much different than ours. God must destroy the words of aggression and blame. He must rule by good over evil. Its hard for us to die to our aggression. We think that God needs to hit us up the side of the head. But God teaches us to be loving by loving us first. God orders all things to be good because His disposition cannot be thwarted. God has an eternal loving disposition that emanates through our lives. He reduces us to being beneath others through blessing us with gifts by being low. We learn there are rewards far greater in being cheerleaders than being aggressive.
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212  Forums / Prayer Requests / Re: For Our Mbg on: June 30, 2014, 02:44:52 PM The Lord has taken mom home. She lived a great life and died a good death. The last words she said to me was that She loved me. I am blessed to be present at that time not knowing that she only had a few hours left. God is truly good. Reply Quote Notify

213  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Looking @ Universalism.... on: June 30, 2014, 02:39:55 PM We live in eternity. We experience the effects of the curse which will end in death. No one wants to be reduced experiencing the pain of the curse. If we live in eternity is the pain just from our view of time and space or is it the meta physical feeling of helplessness? My point being is that the meta physical presence of death is to experience no hope. I believe that anxiety is having a lack of assurance that Gods sovereignty is the pure line between blessing and cursing. Gods sovereignty is not just a hope that there will be no pain in the future but every thing that transpires on this earth is ordered because He is absolutely just and rite. Why would we feel threatened by this pure line of cursing and blessing? Because we take it upon ourselves through our own understanding giving reasons that are pragmatic. This is our natural inclination to believe that we are autonomous. We really believe that we are able to live with the pure line of good and bad through our own strength. But true freedom is rising up to Gods absolute pronouncement of blessing and cursing in which we give up our rite to rule our own lives. We really think that we can will ourselves to give up our lives. But we give it up as a by product of Gods justice consuming our own understanding of justice. We give up our lives when our anger is consumed in Gods righteous indignation. We give our lives up when we see the great gulf between our control and Gods absolute control. As long as we live with a low view of God we will live in the level of what is good and bad in our own eyes. When we rise up to Gods perfect line of blessing and cursing we lose ourselves and we are free from controlling our own lives.      Reply Quote Notify

214  Forums / Prayer Requests / Re: For Our Mbg on: June 28, 2014, 01:28:41 PM Quote from: Lone Arranger on June 28, 2014, 11:00:42 AM Sorry, MBG.  Is she a Christian? Yes ... my mom is the one who told me the gospel when I was seven years of age. I grew up in a christian home. This is the only death in my immediate family. My two brothers, sister and father have made a full circle and are together in South Carolina. We all get along. I am very fortunate and feel a sense of completeness to be in this position at this age. Mom has been a real prayer warrior .She has been the strength of the family..we are gonna miss her.   Reply Quote Notify

215  Forums / Prayer Requests / Re: For Our Mbg on: June 28, 2014, 09:07:49 AM At this point mom needs a miracle.... it looks like the Lord is gonna take her Reply Quote Notify

216  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Free sins vs our part. on: June 21, 2014, 10:08:03 AM Man must have fundamental change. When we are talking about being born again it must begin with Gods call. God calls man from death unto life. The cause of the creation of all things is Gods spoken word. The cause of the recreation of all things is through Gods spoken word. Gods spoken word is simply His desire that is expressed. When we describe our will it is from God speaking to us through an eternal desire. Our past is no longer bound to time. We are connect to Gods description of us from before the foundation of the world. We look at the cause of our existence and we sort of emanate Gods eternal desire. We desire what God desires. We are completely delivered.  We are no longer ruled by time and space.  We now are ruled by eternal desires. This is evidenced by the constant desire to seek God. My heart says seek His face....His face I will seek. What is the Psalmist saying? He is saying that God has put a voice of deliverance in the Psalmist and that voice or desire grows as if God spoke the deliverance and is speaking every deliverance the Psalmist will experience in the future. To draw near to God is simply to hear the voice of deliverance louder and louder until we see God. To seek Gods face is to be united in heart mind and emotion to our true image. It is to experience heaven and earth coming together. We are not looking for earthly success but to see the wonders of God performed before our eyes. The experience of the unity of all things is the clear voice of Gods deliverance. No matter what situation we go through the only time we come to the unity of purpose by experience is to hear the voice of Gods deliverance. So our future success is not how we experience the physical connection to the event but its defined by this a witness we experience as a Father speaks love to his son. We desire what God desires.   Reply Quote Notify

217  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Free sins vs our part. on: June 21, 2014, 09:40:27 AM This is sort of the way that people approach us when we feel confident in our experience. I think we are wrestling here with miss representing of these high experiences that Christians have. Ive very seldom found someone who actually in all serenity rejoices in boasting about Christ. The religious culture that we live in suppresses the advantage that we have to worship with spiritual and physical might. We are always taught that our perfect experience will be future but now we are left in this world to toil and work. lol And we glory in describing the christian life as a life of pain and endless trouble. We do this in a subtle ways by using words ...like we are "bound by the flesh" or we have the good dog and the bad dog analogy. All of our thinking process is creating an image. We are very good at viewing ourselves and others especially in how we are taught to incorporate the "new knowledge of human behavior". Every image that we create errors in our view of the causes that we use to apply our wisdom in a given situation. Its natural for us to believe that we must subdue our will by creating an image of Christ through describing it as the highest pain as a way to lower our expectations so that we are not too confident. We cannot detach ourselves from our experience as we understand our image in viewing Christ. This description exposes our inner christian experience. And we talk as if we stand in a neutral position as we describe all of these different views that have a little truth that adds up to the truth. We misrepresent the christian experience as simply an accumulation of knowledge that we are detached in being able to describe all of these different views so that we can have a unified acceptance as how we feel hope. We are creatures who crave acceptance. Our real reality starts in how we view God. What is God like? How big is this God? What has God said? We see that this false image was used in the first temptation. "Has God said"? God created everything in 6 days and pronounced it good. But man tried to redefine Gods perfect pronouncements. Instead of man pronouncing Gods pronouncement in response to the serpent ...man decided to pronounce his own authority over creation. The serpent simply asked the question "Is God really good"? Man should have spoken the pronouncement that God declared everything good. But to some people the tree of knowledge of good and evil had some kind of weird power to draw some men away. They present the idea that to choose is to be in between two equal powers. The power of the pronouncement and the evil power of the tree. But if there is no evidence of a choice then there is no choice at all. A choice is simply God allowing so that we experience freedom in enjoying the choice. We see that God has decreed whatsoever comes to pass. He has given us enough pronouncements to resist the devil. In fact He has already decreed that the devil is powerless to rule by evil and destruction. But we want to describe our christian experience by living in this imagination of equilibrium. We want to imagine that its because we have a choice to either obey or disobey that defines our freedoms. We do not want to have Gods pronouncements on our lips and be confident that we understand the end from the beginning because we are safe in His description of us. We want to redefine our image. Reply Quote Notify

218  Forums / Main Forum / Re: The unrepentant sinner--problem for Arminians only? on: June 20, 2014, 11:38:12 AM Quote from: morning listener on June 20, 2014, 11:12:31 AM Quote from: mybigGod on June 20, 2014, 09:36:54 AM Let me respond to Joker. A man who is troubled by ongoing sin has only one option. Its to receive grace. Grace is simply a free gift. I have left writing a series of doctrinal arguments. Does my writing agree with doctrine? Yes because I am writing the scripture.   How does that not contradict "Irresistible Grace"? Can you explain? ... not sure where the contradiction is. I thought the irresistible part would be that there is no work on our part. Reply Quote Notify

219  Forums / Main Forum / Re: The unrepentant sinner--problem for Arminians only? on: June 20, 2014, 09:36:54 AM Let me respond to Joker. A man who is troubled by ongoing sin has only one option. Its to receive grace. Grace is simply a free gift. It could be that repentance is taught as a carrot that can never be caught. In this since there is nothing a man can do to get it or keep it. So to try to get grace as a way for a man to overcome whatever sin he is doing is to try to earn grace. Grace can never be measured. If its measured then its no longer grace. No one can prove by his repentance that he has grace. lol Its a contradiction. The reason that Christ taught such hard teachings is not so that man could will himself to be acceptable but Christ showed the impossibility to come to salvation on our own. We needed to be granted repentance. A christian who hears these hard teachings can only be obedient if he gives God his sins with no strings attached. The point being that guilt is not a blessing but its a weight around our necks. The wish to someone who uses guilt to motivate us is a wish for the law to have its full effect upon that person. And anyone who has understood that there is a curse upon blame in the ot knows that God takes that weight from us who seek salvation. I have left writing a series of doctrinal arguments. Does my writing agree with doctrine? Yes because I am writing the scripture.   Reply Quote Notify

220  Forums / Main Forum / Re: The unrepentant sinner--problem for Arminians only? on: June 20, 2014, 09:20:43 AM The christian no longer repents like an unbeliever. An unbeliever who hears the gospel is repenting for the first time. The repentance comes with the realization that he has lived a life in alienation to God and was subject to being punished. He in essence was condemned by the law and live in a constant state of fear as if he were declared guilty and was awaiting his sentencing. The reason that he is able to repent is that he understand for the first time that he is a sinner and deserving of eternal punishment. This is a startling revelation. Can you remember facing this threat of eternal damnation? Can you remember all of your sins being put before you? Not only did you experience the guilt from your years of living in rebellion to God but you experienced the full voice of the law condemning you. My experience was being overcome by dread and hopelessness. I had such a sensitive conscience that it took me years to overcome my tendency to live in blame and guilt. But what i am saying is there is much sorrow in the experience of repenting unto salvation. But for the christian we no longer are blind to our sin. God has sort of given us a funny bone and its natural for us to feel like we are sinners. With this new realization we experience repentance as a way of life. Its not how much we react to sin that shows that we are transparent but its living in grace as a sinner that shows the value of our repentance. We must learn how to walk in this life of repentance. We must learn the new communication of christian repentance. How does the new man repent? He does not need to go back to his first repentance. He no longer needs to repent from dead works. Instead the believer is able to use the negative voice of the law as his friend. When we were unsaved the law stood over us like a school master. But now that we are saved the law becomes our voice of pronouncement. God pronounces everything good after His creation. Because evil entered the world it was corrupted. So God had to curse everything. Cursing is simply a call for God to justify Himself. God had to destroy everything because it was in a sense the ruling evidence of evil. So by cursing God put an end to the purpose of evil. No longer would evil rule over good because God decreed a curse upon the destruction and anyone who would seek to destroy what He has made. By Gods pronouncements everything is recreated.   Because God did the work of overcoming evil with good through His Son then He blessed His creation. We went from repenting in a cursed state to repenting in a blessed state. Now the success of our sin is overturned by Gods grace and we are now able to pronounce Gods decrees so that in grace we rule all things. Repentance is living with the understanding that grace reigns over evil and we no longer are living in that evil communication. We now have Gods word that overcomes all evil. We live in a blessed state. Reply Quote Notify

221  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Free sins vs our part. on: June 20, 2014, 08:41:03 AM Ive been writing for many years and I do not believe that I have ever written in a way that is contradictory. If people want to understand that scripture teaches Gods purpose is to unify all things. I understand for teaching sake that there is a purpose for making distinctions in the scripture but our problem is not "what part is lacking" but its how we view the world. We make other gods by stating a truth that is correct but making it more important than the fundamental teaching of scripture. Even the Psalmist declares there is only one thing he seeks not two. Why does the Psalmist repeat this over and over again? Because he is teaching that it is equal to one God, one faith, one baptism, one Spirit. etc. When we start from this premise then we can define the reasons for the existence of all things. There is only one true communication. One true description of everything that exist. Gods spoken word is communicating the creation of all things and the sustaining of those things. This was fundamental in the Jewish mind. But some how we have been duped by the Greeks. All societies, cultures, and economies are a form of communication. Because man has become his own god he has strayed in his thoughts. A man is born to think that he is his own god. Man is born to create distention and chaos. Man desires to dethrone God. Man creates his own image by going against Gods way of thinking and speaking. From the beginning man has devised wicked schemes. God has made it impossible for man to be rebellious without it ruining of society. When man becomes his own god he seeks to control everyone around him. Instead of there being two problems there is an effort to turn Gods world upside down. Man rules other men through force. Force is the desire to turn unity into chaos. God always speaks to the rulers because the evil is like oil and water...evil communication always rises to the top of the ladder of society. We have a very small view of the causes of problems in this world. God sees the first thought of an evil man and how it is passed down from one generation to another. Man plots evil against his neighbor while he is on his bed. God sees the growth of one evil thought that grows through one generation to another and becomes a powerful image of destruction. Ive been writing about how small man is in reversing this destructive authority. I have been trying to show how impossible it is for man to overcome years of false communication that creates value and acceptance as the basis for its ruthless power. Ive been showing how impossible it is for man to change this problem.   Reply Quote Notify

222  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Free sins vs our part. on: June 19, 2014, 06:17:21 PM You describing it as we are one person in heaven and another person here in this life. . Just think of the logic of this. Some times we are obedient and display our heaven person ie the person that God rewards and at other times we sin so God must punish us and take our rewards away. When we are doing what God wants we have fellowship but when we are sinning the fellowship is broken. Kk is more than willing to be consistent in his description of two people with two different relationships. But there are reformed brothers who agree to this description because they use two line even tho they disagree with Kk about Gods choice of us before the foundation of the world. At least Kk comes out publicly that he is a true member of the Arminist social club even tho he may not agree with my label. Im simply using the historical definition. I do not believe we are two people. I believe we are fully sanctified when we are saved. I also believe that we are fully justified too. The apostle says.. who can bring any charge against Gods elect? Of course the two liners will say that we could be the other person on this earth even tho we are the second person the apostle is talking about in Rom. 9. But we do not start with ourselves when we stand on our complete sanctification and justification. We point to Christ perfect work on our behalf. See real substitution gives us real transparency. Real substitution gives us a true personal christian life. We do not need to be someone else. We can start from the position that we are taught in scripture and stand on the substitutes work on our behalf. lol  Reply Quote Notify

223  Forums / Main Forum / Re: Free sins vs our part. on: June 19, 2014, 11:36:19 AM I guess i was miss understood. I was simply saying that the sin issue has already been dealt with at the cross. No further atonement is necessary. Its a matter of ones interpretation in distinguishing between the national message and the personal message to the elect that that gives us the proper context of christian repentance. I am simply presenting the OT word usage in ots proper context. I am very consistent in my arguments against two line. God does not give with one hand and take away with the other. Reply Quote Notify

224  Forums / Break Room / Re: Evil/good = black/white? on: June 18, 2014, 09:51:33 AM I believe we need to start with personal desire. We want to learn to desire what God desires. Most of the modern day advice is geared toward how we can change the other person. If we do a certain thing then we are assured of a better outcome. And with this focus we develop a philosophy where there are rules that cannot be crossed. Its the one size fits all. You do the program and you are able to move on. Everyone speaks the same buzz words. ie rescuing, enabling, responsibility etc... Remember there is only one way of thinking that gives each person the ultimate freedom. All other systems create cults. Our problem is that we do not naturally desire what God desires. God is a person. He can be moved. He doesnt automatically zap us and we are able to be successful. We must learn what pleases Him. So I believe instead of narrowing the relationship between vertical and horizontal, we must see the big gulf that separates us from God. Man is born with all kinds off false ways to approach God. Since there is only one way then the problem is not difficult on God communicating with us but its men putting up stumbling blocks in teaching about God. We want to reverse this. So we are always repeating verses that support what the culture is repeating. But there is nothing wrong with being suspicious about what comes out of the mouth of man. The bible says that we should examine all things. In examining we simply grow in the knowledge of God and we put whatever it is up to the test of scripture. The Psalmist says that God has exalted above all things His name and His word. Gods name is His success of ordering all things to be recreated by His word unto His praise and glory. When we come in the name of the Lord we are coming in complete freedom because He has already gone before us and completed the work that is necessary for us to be successful. He has pronounced the created success ...the recreated word ...and on this we stand. If we pray these pronouncements then we will recreate that success by experiencing the oneness of Gods in all things. The problem is not a miss understanding of the image of God but through false words we create false images that lead men astray. We get what we desire. When we are regenerated we are implanted with the seed of the word of God. We now experience eternal life. We have a desire that cannot be quenched or overcome. It is a kingdom desire. We desire to know God. The Psalmist compares this desire to a deer panting after water. The oneness grows as we long for God like someone calling from the deep ...the union with our new man ..like waves rushing over the shore line. (The deep call and then the covenant effect.) But this desire also is a creative desire. Not only do we draw near to God but we have a safe place that we can always go to. Our desire is fulfilled because it always allows us to allow God. On the other hand it always forbids us because of Gods power to forbid. "Do not let the wicked get what they desire" If you want the definition of freedom its experiencing power over all things by God allowing or forbidding. The new seed is a perfect description of Gods will that is in perfect union with all things. Its called the new nature. Nature is simply the fulness of God dwelling in us.     Reply Quote Notify

225	Forums / Main Forum / Re: Answering the critics.	on: June 17, 2014, 05:19:42 PM
Now the problem is not how to better understand ourselves. It is dangerous to make absolute judgements about ourselves in light of our circumstances. In my young 20s I could not be happy unless I examined myself and knew exactly what went wrong in my daily life. I could not let go of my life. My own thinking was destroying myself. It took me years to see that it wasnt what I thought or what I did but how God was making me fit in. When I understood this concept I did not need people to accept me. Before I had no way of measuring what it was like to fit in because I did not trust God to perform what was necessary for me to fit in. When I had enough understanding to see what God was doing then I no longer needed to please other people. This transformed my life. I now let myself go. Now I can tell you about most of my experiences the amount of unity I experienced at different parts of my life. I got so good at measuring and feeling unity that I experienced some things in this life...i mean when the situation meets the purpose we are made for... that most people will never get to. I went up to the top so to speak of that experience. But on this earth it will never be consistently that way. But unity is a meta physical state of mind...  now i feel unity so much that it overcomes me and i lose a sense of the physical.